Thursday, July 05, 2007

One law for one.

Stolen from 'Whatever It Is, I’m Against It'

Yesterday, Bush repeatedly called the Scooter Libby sentence excessive. Today, he twice referred to it as “severe,” an entirely subjective term.

Speaking of severe, this is what Bush said in 2000, defending never having used his power as governor to commute a death sentence: “I’m confident that every person that has been put to death in Texas, under my watch, has been guilty of the crime charged, and has had full access to the courts.”
Funny that he thinks the courts have failed his pal though. Must be an exception.

This guy writes some interesting and humorous comments on his blog around the US administration mainly.


At 3:36 pm, Blogger Lord Straf-Dresden said...

This Scooter Libby biz is interesting - I've heard comments on both sides.

At 8:33 pm, Blogger Bag said...

I wouldn't have done this post ordinarily but I needed to for two reasons.

1) I hate hypocrisy.

2) DK said I should refer to the source a bit more and after looking and deciding he was right I thought this would be a good example to try the format.

At 11:45 pm, Blogger Ruthie said...

The death penalty should be abolished, IMO.

This Libby thing is frustrating all around-- the Clintons are all up in arms about it, despite their distinct record of pardoning people who didn't deserve it.

Also, Libby's still going to have to pay a quarter million dollars in fines, get his law license revoked, be on probation for two years, and live with the stigma of this forever.

Now, if he were pardoned entirely, that would piss me off a lot more. But I think Bush actually was trying to find a happy medium that would please everybody-- obviously it didn't work.

At 1:56 am, Blogger Bag said...

Ruthe, I'm with you on the death penalty.

And no one can change a verdct from a court and please everybody. Especially as the sentences were OK for other people but not his pals. Noone can win that discussion unless there s a clear mscarriage of justice.

At 3:29 pm, Blogger Colin Campbell said...

If ever there was a person with powers above the law, it is Dick Cheney, Emperor of the Free World. The change in sentence must be down to his lobbying.

At 11:37 pm, Blogger Bag said...

He does seem to have disproportional power to his position.

It must be better to be the power behind the throne and let someone else take the rap.

At 2:06 am, Blogger Lord Nazh© said...

The death penalty should be used more... it's the only 100% deterrent there is.

Bush will pardon libby if his appeals all fail. Count on it.

At 6:03 pm, Blogger Bag said...

My Lord.

The death penalty is not a deterrent. Your jails are full of people not deterrered and your justice system full of people getting away with it on a techncality,

n the meantime injustices do happen.

I do beleve that any justice system that does not have a way of fxing it's decisions is injust.

At 1:52 am, Blogger Lord Nazh© said...

Bags, name me one person who ever committed another crime after the death penalty was applied?...

I'll wait :)

At 2:32 am, Blogger Bag said...

My Lord. Of course I can't but let me negate that wth with asking you to provide the name of one innocent man who was executed, pardoned and returned to the bosom of his loving family. Many killers are in jail and they have not reoffended either.

It's a preference based on an understanding. I've explained my view in a new article because it actually came up today in a discussion. The guys at work thought I would be all for it.

I understand your preference. I just don't have the same view.

At 1:30 am, Blogger Lord Nazh© said...

Quite a few killers in jail have indeed reoffended, they kill other criminals, guards and then when (some) get out, they reoffend then.

No matter what you do, there is a chance of being wrong, that is the *supposed* purpose of the trials and mandatory appeals.

Punishment (no matter if it is jail, a fine or death) has never and will never be a deterrent on 'future' criminals. Every criminal (99% anyway) already know what they do is wrong and what the punishment is. If punishment were a true deterrent to future criminals, crime would go down all the time as more and more 'repeat' criminals were locked away for good.

Punishment is about what it says, punishment.

At 6:38 am, Blogger Bag said...

My Lord, I agree with you.

In my lttle cubes nobody would reoffend. They wouldn't be able to.


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