Friday, June 22, 2007

We are now 'Little Satan'

The Iranians, clearly our best friends in the world, think that the UK is behind everything that goes on in Iran. We are the Little Satan. Read here.

Finally we are moving up in the world. Sadly, it's in an area we could do without the enhanced status. I'm sure that this does not bode well for the future.

I can only hope that our FO will look at the state of our foreign relations after Blair goes, I just don't see Gordo wanting to do anything in this area that costs money, and works towards repairing our worldwide standing and reputation. It should be easy if the right steps are taken and the right noises made. I just don't see it happening but fingers crossed.


At 6:44 pm, Blogger Crushed by Ingsoc said...

Only a LIITLE Satan?

Sort of like an Imp?

No, that's our beloved leader...

At 9:37 pm, Blogger Snuffleupagus said...

?? Are you saying we have done something wrong here? You mean Iraq? But they're not complaining about that! Iran has over and over again gone way beyond what is acceptable behaviour. ... comments on Israel, comments on Britain. I mean this uproar about Rushdie is simply ridiculous! If they were angry about Iraq, I'd understand, but...

At 4:01 am, Blogger Lord Nazh said...

What would YOU change in the foreign relations department to get on Iran's good side??

At 10:41 am, Blogger Bag said...

Well for starters I was not just referring to our foreign policy on Iran. I was talking about restoring our standing in the worlds eyes which has been lost under Blairs policies. We have done a lot wrong.

With Iran specifically.

We arm their enemies and encourage rbellion against their regime. We then get upset about that when they do the same using the only tools they have. We have long recognised that we can change things by the introduction of new ideas. Not guns but bands, electrical equipment and ideas of freedom. But that doesn't fit in with our leaders. They use force and that leaves people with grudges that they will exercise sneakily when they can.

This Rushdie thing shows how much our government knows about foreign relationships. It was obvious what it would do. Well to anyone with a couple of working brain cells anyway. At first I thought they were making a point, a point I supported, but then it works out they had no idea. Personally I don't think Rushdie deserves it but we should award it and handle any repercussions as they arise. Including killing the Imam that issued the fatwa if Rushie dies. I'm a firm believer in the principle that if our leaders paid the penalties of their action then they would actually put some thought into them and their repercussions.

As far as handling Iran. They claim the reactors are for fuel. Fine it is an agreed process that we are hypocritically abusing ourselves. Let them have their fuel. Do regular inspections and audits and if they deviate from agreed protocols then we do something. Define each of the scenarios and the actions we would do, the penalties for each. Including if we are attacked by anything created by the Iranians we just nuke their entire country. If we set reasoable and realistic policies, and stick to them, they will know that it is not worth it. Of course the policy have to be disproportional as all punishments should be to make the juice not worth the squeeze, (a phrase I have heard and liked). These policies include Israel which we should sort our media out about.

Bottom line : At the moment we are spreading democracy through force and when these people that are blown up in the name of freedom vote they are voting for the people that hate us so we hypocritically then support a rebellion by the people we like against an elected government. Plus we kidnap their people take them away illegally and torture them. We then imprison them without charge and then talk about morals and legal rights. We critise their attitude to human rights but then clamp down on them at home under the guise of national security. We just can't keep doing this.

Now after all that we wonder why these guys do not like us and strike back the only way they know how.

We need to be consistent, stick to our own rules and have some sense about what stances we take.

At 6:50 pm, Blogger Lord Nazh said...

"Now after all that we wonder why these guys do not like us and strike back the only way they know how."

You do realize that they didn't like us and 'struck back' long before we started 'enforcing' democracy right?

Yea, their nuclear program is just for fuel... thats why they won't let the inspectors look, and of course if we are attacked we'll retaliate, that will be slightly too late for Israel if Iran attacks with a nuke though.

At 9:46 pm, Blogger Bag said...

My Lord, we have been forcing ourselves on them for a long time as well. As usual with all these things we are not entirely blameless.

Nobody knows what their nuclear programme is for except them. Plus they will follow the terms of the NPT. All this fuss is because we are calling them liars. Now bear in mind I also think they have nuclear ambitions I think it is better to come to an agreement where we can monitor what is going on.

Now what would we say if the UN insisted on setting up a team to monitor our nuclear fuel? Bearing in mind we have lost enough to make several nuclear devices.

There is a fear that if they deveop a nuclear strike capability they would use it on Israel. We need to ensure that we try, and try is the word, to prevent it geing nuclear with promises of what will happen if it occurs or even if it is attempted.


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